Brutal Mauling - Guild Wars Forums

Evasion Twenty · Aug 18, 2009, 08:12 PM // 20:12

What purpose does it do?

http://www.wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Brutal_Mauling

All it does is make the bear have LESS dps imho, because of the 4-second activation, and does no extra damage.

MisterB · Aug 18, 2009, 08:15 PM // 20:15

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Since this is an attack skill, some Paragon Shouts and Chants that affect "allies", but not "party members", can be triggered.

Other pets can't do that.
Pets are bad.

zelgadissan · Aug 18, 2009, 08:15 PM // 20:15

From the page of the black bear:

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The attack skill that the Black Bear uses is slower than a normal pet attack, causing the Black Bear to have a lower damage per second than other pets (including the Polar Bear). However, it can also trigger effects that requires an attack skill to be used, like some Paragon skills provide.

Personally I don't think it's worth it, but it's at least something to consider.

Evasion Twenty · Aug 18, 2009, 09:07 PM // 21:07

Doesn't it lower it's DPS, if you have no shouts or anything? Personally, it should be removed.

Don't discriminate pets!

Bob Slydell · Aug 18, 2009, 09:12 PM // 21:12

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Originally Posted by Evasion Twenty

What purpose does it do?

http://www.wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Brutal_Mauling

All it does is make the bear have LESS dps imho, because of the 4-second activation, and does no extra damage.

I think wrong wikipage is wrong TBH... doesn't the bear have a 4 second delay in attacks naturally? So it cancels it out, me and some friends actually had a debate about this during school back when gw was popular still and a friend wanted to tame a bear in pre, i dunno.. do whatever.

Though.. bears were introduced in prophecies in 2005 (duh) when paragon shouts weren't a though for another year and a half basically. I wonder if anet had plans for paragon based shouts or chants in the original game or something. Why else would the bear just use a plain skill?

BrettM · Aug 18, 2009, 09:29 PM // 21:29

Recall that Brutal Mauling will interrupt Charm Animal, making it difficult to charm a black bear in Pre-Searing. My guess is that the skill was designed for just that purpose. IIRC, black bears don't use that skill in Post when they are charmed.

nkuvu · Aug 18, 2009, 09:51 PM // 21:51

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Originally Posted by BrettM

Recall that Brutal Mauling will interrupt Charm Animal, making it difficult to charm a black bear in Pre-Searing. My guess is that the skill was designed for just that purpose. IIRC, black bears don't use that skill in Post when they are charmed.

You're thinking of Breaking Charm.

Stc95 · Aug 18, 2009, 09:53 PM // 21:53

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Originally Posted by BrettM

Recall that Brutal Mauling will interrupt Charm Animal, making it difficult to charm a black bear in Pre-Searing. My guess is that the skill was designed for just that purpose. IIRC, black bears don't use that skill in Post when they are charmed.

Brutal Mauling doesn't interrupt Charm Animal, Breaking Charm does, and only bears in Pre-Searing have it. Brutal Mauling is only for buffs that effect an attack skill. Mostly Paragon shouts like Anthem of Flame/Weariness.

Ugh · Aug 18, 2009, 10:27 PM // 22:27

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Originally Posted by Chrisworld

doesn't the bear have a 4 second delay in attacks naturally?

Pets attacks once every 2 seconds.

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Originally Posted by Some guy on wiki

You guys are free to believe me or not but I remember that in the betas of GW the bear was the only pet to inflict BLEEDING and it was likely caused by this attack. For some obscure reason they removed this from him (overall pet balance i guess). I'm affraid I have no screen-shots of this but I thought it would relieve those of you who can't sleep at night wondering what this does/may have done.

Credible? ^

MrGuildBoi · Aug 18, 2009, 10:58 PM // 22:58

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Originally Posted by wiki

According to the German in game description, it is a "Beastly attack that will make target bleed for 5 seconds". However, that previous description is erroneous since Brutal Mauling doesn't cause Bleeding and is a standard attack.

from unofficial wiki

snaek · Aug 18, 2009, 11:03 PM // 23:03

it was probably just another one of those "we had an idea in mind but were too lazy to implement it or completely remove it so we just left it as is".

Evasion Twenty · Aug 18, 2009, 11:39 PM // 23:39

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Originally Posted by snaek

it was probably just another one of those "we had an idea in mind but were too lazy to implement it or completely remove it so we just left it as is".

Thanks for describing update snaek

They should really take care of their messes.

notskorn · Aug 18, 2009, 11:46 PM // 23:46

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Originally Posted by Evasion Twenty

Thanks for describing update snaek

They should really take care of their messes.

Why? Its not a big deal and it doesn't really affect the game at all

BrettM · Aug 19, 2009, 01:13 AM // 01:13

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Originally Posted by nkuvu

You're thinking of Breaking Charm.

D'oh. My bad.

MagmaRed · Aug 19, 2009, 05:38 AM // 05:38

Not only does it work with the various shouts/chants, but it can also cause monsters to use interrupt skills like Cry of Frustration. If they use the interrupts on the pet, it leaves you and your team safe from them. Again, not reliable, and not useful for most situations, but it is another thing the skill can do.

imnotyourmother · Aug 20, 2009, 03:02 PM // 15:02

WOW is this why people want to charm a bear. It takes forever with a new person cause they simply do not know what "run in the other direction" means so the bear can not use break charm and you get your bear.

This is very hard now. Never was like this before.

So if you put the pre bear into the menagerie then what bear do you get back?

Aug 18, 2009, 08:12 PM // 20:12	#1
Evasion Twenty Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Outside Guild: Balthazars Chosen [BC] Profession: R/P	Brutal Mauling What purpose does it do? http://www.wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Brutal_Mauling All it does is make the bear have LESS dps imho, because of the 4-second activation, and does no extra damage.

Aug 18, 2009, 09:07 PM // 21:07	#4
Evasion Twenty Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Outside Guild: Balthazars Chosen [BC] Profession: R/P	Doesn't it lower it's DPS, if you have no shouts or anything? Personally, it should be removed. Don't discriminate pets!

Aug 18, 2009, 09:29 PM // 21:29	#6
BrettM Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2008 Guild: Fuzzy Physics Institute Profession: E/	Recall that Brutal Mauling will interrupt Charm Animal, making it difficult to charm a black bear in Pre-Searing. My guess is that the skill was designed for just that purpose. IIRC, black bears don't use that skill in Post when they are charmed.

Aug 18, 2009, 11:03 PM // 23:03	#11
snaek Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2006 Profession: N/	it was probably just another one of those "we had an idea in mind but were too lazy to implement it or completely remove it so we just left it as is".

Aug 19, 2009, 05:38 AM // 05:38	#15
MagmaRed Furnace Stoker Join Date: Mar 2007 Guild: Our Crabs Know True [LOVE] Profession: R/	Not only does it work with the various shouts/chants, but it can also cause monsters to use interrupt skills like Cry of Frustration. If they use the interrupts on the pet, it leaves you and your team safe from them. Again, not reliable, and not useful for most situations, but it is another thing the skill can do.

Aug 20, 2009, 03:02 PM // 15:02	#16
imnotyourmother Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: in a house Guild: The Knitters Guild Profession: W/R	WOW is this why people want to charm a bear. It takes forever with a new person cause they simply do not know what "run in the other direction" means so the bear can not use break charm and you get your bear. This is very hard now. Never was like this before. So if you put the pre bear into the menagerie then what bear do you get back?